TDoR, Porn, and a Pissed T-Girl


Last Year Monica Robers asked a very good question “Does The Transgender Porn World Celebrate The TDOR?” At the time I poked around and didn’t see any evidence that they did. While I know that some individuals within the industry do observe this day, I didn’t know if the industry itself did – officially.  This year I have better access to and knowledge of the trans porn industry, so I kept an eye out.

I want to acknowledge that the one site that I post to regularly, DID have a post on their blog, and a few topics on the forums (and I didn’t even have to start them). Please note this IS A PORN SITE – NOT WORK SAFE! TRIGGERING LANGUAGE AND IMAGES. I’ll reprint the text below in case you don’t want to follow the link:

November 20, 2009 is the Transgender Day of Remembrance (TDoR). The TDoR originated from the November 28, 1998 murder of Rita Hester. Please take a few minutes this Friday to remember the transwomen and transmen that were killed due to anti-transgender hatred or prejudice.

For more information please visit the sites:
Transgender.org
Egale Canada

So, after posting on the site and blowing up the fantasies, trying to clear some misconceptions, and make the site actually try to be friendly and safe(ish) for trans women – they did a solid and got some education done. A couple of the guys went to their local TDoR and posted about it. One super great guy had his own memorial and talked about it on the site. So, yes one site did observe TDoR is some small ways.

But that is a free site. The owner of the site isn’t really making money off of it with his little livechat ads. What about the guys who you know, actually make some cash showing trans bodies? The guys who largely perpetuate the myths that we are hyper-sexed deceivers? Joey Silvera – nothing. Black Ops – not a chance, Ladyboy69 – nope, they did have some cra on their blog about never falling in love with an LB (seems they get pissed if you screw around on them once they stop working in the bar and get a “proper job”).

What about Grooby? After all, he makes himself out to be the greatest, most giving, “right there in the trenches” member of our community. Surely HE did something to help us out. Nope. Oh wait, he did post this on Twitter:

@LaughrioTgirl for those in Hawaii (like us), our day is just starting. Don’t misread our silence as not caring, we weren’t awake yet! 2:43 PM Nov 20th from TweetDeck in reply to LaughrioTgirl

He also Tweeted:
Today is the Transgender Day of Remembrance. Over 120 lives lost this year because of hate. http://bit.ly/7OB5fa #TDOR

Neither he nor the photographer have any mention on their sites. Actually, NONE of the men who are professionally associated with him have any information. It is interesting to note that the conversations on twitter by these guys the past few days has been either advertising the latest shemale extravaganza or talking about the wife and kids. Must be fucking lovely to make money off trans women then go home to the cis-wifey and the babies. So, Nothing on his sites. Nothing on any of the forums connected to his or his photographers. Why does this bother me? Well…

120 people were killed, nearly 50 of them were not important enough to be given a name when reported. Most of them were involved in the sex industry – one of them was a model for Grooby. The vast majority of trans women’s rapists, assailants, and murders are cis men. The largest demographic of people who visit his sites are, yup cis-men. He has the ability to reach the people most likely to KILL ME!

I’m going to say this now. I know cis people are killed. I also know that trans women of color are 8 times more likely to be killed then non-trans women of color. Me, I’m white, so I’m only 12 times more likely to me murdered *For being trans*. The men who kil us, get the lightest sentences, if caught and rarely convicted. While they ALWAYS claim that they had no idea, were threatened and/or attacked – their friends and family usually have a different story. A story that often links the guy in a relationship with the gal, or links him to having been with other trans women in the past.

These guys reach the people who murder us. Who murder their models, their “friends”, the women who aren’t quite good enough to be their wives (but good enough to help give their wives a roof and some dinner). I used to be pretty neutral about the trans porn industry – but now… I don’t know…

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~ by laughriotgirl on November 21, 2009.

25 Responses to “TDoR, Porn, and a Pissed T-Girl”

  1. There is nothing we could do that would make you happy frankly and your going to always have a grudge against people who work in this industry if they’re NOT transgender. I knew of the day of rememberence but I don’t feel it’s necessary to perpetuate or advertise it, that’s my choice on how I run my business.
    I’ve been running a site that is up every day, not just one day a year and the saddest site I have to update. It’s not a transgender memorial site, the same as I don’t work in the transgender field, it’s specifically for those who work within the transender erotica industry, which is my field.
    Check it out at http://www.grooby.com/fallenangels/

    We constantly educate across the forums and sites. We’re educating people who may not be aware of the facts, you simply are having a whine to the already converted.

    I’m not going to defend what I do within the TG community or extol how we do help … but what exactly do you do to help the situation? Are you putting money into places or just paying lip-service? Do you help any individuals or groups?

    By the way, that forum you mentioned exists for one purpose, to make money by selling to adult sites. You posting on there raises the post count and the search engine awareness which in turn brings new traffic into his main site. He may only have a few adverts on the forum but that’s just a link from his main domain : http://www.transladyboy.com/ count the advertising there and the sales/companies that YOU are directly contributing to.

    You may be one pissed tranny but there are 100’s who are happily working in the industry – you doing a dis-service to all of them by your constant vitriol against anything in the adult TS sector.

    • Steven – Yes there were plenty of things you could have done. You opted for none of them. I have a grudge against people making money on trans bodies and ignoring when those bodies are murdered. You not promoting TDoR because it’s not going to draw a buck?

      Your your information the main TDoR site is up every day also, so I don’t see what your crowing about. Also, what is the “transgender field”?

      Where exactly is the education on your sites? Seriously, I visit TgirlTalk and HA and I don’t see much “education” happening. Lots of “who has the hottest cock?” and all that, but little discussion of actual trans issues or education for the guys.

      What do I do? Are you honestly asking me? Aside from working as an openly trans women and educating people every single day of my life (I don’t have the luxury of denial now do I?). I have worked with at risk trans runaways, I am starting a progrma to provide training to cis and trans women released from prison for non-violent/non-fraud crimes (mostly prostitution and drugs), and I do speaking engagements for the local university on trans issues.

      Steven, YOU have access to the men who kill us. You and your partner’s silence on the day when we remember the people who were murdered is telling. Your industry’s silence is expected, but galling. Your reasoning, it seems, is “talking about dead shemales is bad for business and I can’t make a buck on a dead tranny”

      Also, I’m not against the industry. It is my opinion that any trans woman should be supported in whatever line of work she chooses. I think it is telling though, that you and your sites chose to advertise the tranny awards rather than give any mention – even on your “educational” forums to TDoR.

      • I agree with this post.

        I’d like to add that it makes good business sense to treat your golden goose well, cuz, one of these days, the women he employs are going to have more lucrative options, and, we have very long memories.

        That’s the business angle. From the moral angle I find Mr Groby to be the moral equivalent of a sea cucumber, and I have found people like him to be in no short supply in the industry. That’s why I always stayed independent back in my day…too many Mr. Groby’s, and not enough men with the basic business sense to take care of their investments as WE should be.

        Color me unimpressed with his handwringing and horn tooting; as a businesswoman, and as a woman working for the betterment of me and mine, I know when to spot a loser.

  2. Also Steven, your comment got spammed so I didn’t catch it until now

  3. 1. I don’t own Hungangels whatsoever.
    2. I don’t have a partner.
    3. My customers are men, women and transgenders. Not men who kill people. Your demographic is twisted. I suspect that most transgenders who meet violent deaths do so at the hands of people who don’t join TS websites (and therefore know what a TS is … and has in her panties), pimps, other TS’s, etc. I’ve never heard of one case where anybody viewing a website like ours has went out and killed.

    4. If your speaking at a university then I surely hope that you paint a wider point of view and less embroiled in personal bitterness than you do here? Respectfully, the title of the site does give fair warning and you’ve certainly allowed your personal bias spill over into your messages.

    5. I run a website called Black-Tgirls.com – I’m not black. By your standards, I’m responsible for all black people and promoting black awareness? I’m also not married to a black girl, that should be a problem for you right?

    6. If you haven’t seen education or general chat that doesn’t involve sex on tgirltalk.com, then you haven’t look very far.

    Your whole article just reeks of bitterness. Just because an individual works with a specific group of people, you expect the to be responsible for everything within that and marry someone within that group. It’s narrow minded and hypocritical how many business examples need pointing out that don’t follo this. I’ve dated transgenders and you belong to the group of people, who would call me a “Tranny Chaser” if I dated more than 2 in a year.

    … but I digress. I do take exception at your points, I am a business and I’m out to make money and keep my 10 US employees in work (2 lesbians, a German, a Filipino, 2 transgirls, a transboy if you want the break down) in an ever competitive and difficult landscape to work in. Why didn’t I promote the TDOR … because it’s not relevant to my specific business, the same as I don’t report on every time a transgender does something fantastic in the news – we report any models that have died on a personal basis when it happens, informing and educating. Which is far more powerful than throwing a link up to site with a bunch of faces, that none of our surfers would recognise.

    It’s a shame you can’t see past your own agendas and understand the wider picture as you have a good site that could promote here. Alienating the very people you claim you’d like to educate, just means it will continue to be read by your few followers and those who’ve already attacked me in these threads with no basis.

    • 1) It was my understanding that you did, or used to at any rate.
      2) Your partners, buddies, photographers, associates, posse – whatever. The guys who operate the site within your umbrella.

      3) OK, Next post will detail a member of some trans porn site who beat my ass and left me for dead. He didn’t murder me, but not for lack of trying.

      You surmise that most TG’s are killed by guys who have no idea what a TS is. I’ll have disagree. Time and time again it is the guys who pursue us looking to fulfill their curiosity who freak out. Obviously, each story is different – but to say that guys who look at trans porn/ join sites don’t kill trans women – seriously?

      4) I’m pretty sure I do a fine job with my speaking engagements. I do get requested time and time again. If you ever bothered to read the stuff I post on TLB, I think you’d see that I try to understand where the guys are coming from while maintaining my position.

      5) Given that I’m not saying you are responsible for all trans women, NO – I don’t think you should be responsible for all “black people”. You should be promoting awareness of trans women of color. Who, by the way are most likely to be murdered for being trans 1 in 8 (you get to live in the comfey 1 in 18,000).

      Your marriage is none of my business – I do find it remarkable that you and your buddies seem conveniently married to cis women. No shame there.

      6) tgirltalk is much like TLB. The conversation is %90 cock-n-tits with the odd legal announcement. It’s not bad, but it’s not great either.

      Steven, you don’t just “work with a specific group of people”. Your business IS A SPECIFIC GROUP OF PEOPLE. I don’t expect you to be responsible for much of anything really. I do expect you to be aware of and visibly work to improve the lives of the people who make you money and by extension the greater community to which they belong. If you don’t agree, you don’t agree – just don’t go around talking about how there are no good trans charities to give to.

      Am I supposed to be grateful or something that you actually *ghasp* dated trans women…but found more fertile pastures elsewhere? Lots of tranny chasers have the same story. Don’t like the term – think of something better. (the number of trans women you date in a year has nothing to do with you being a chaser)

      Your reasoning really sounds like making money is more important than tell people that trans women are murdered at an alarming rate. I know it’s a bummer innit – but I get to live in a world where this is a daily reality and fear. I read your fallenangles site, it’s good and I can appreciate that it is difficult for you to maintain. I’m not discounting your involvement with your models or any of that. I am, however, pointing out that you have access to a greater population of people who need to know that we are more than a fantasy or a freaky kink/fetish. Where you choose to place you value is your decision. But expect that trans women (who largely have limited access to any media and who are largely poor/unemployed/underemployed) see you raking in bucks and not acknowledging TDoR may see this as a slap in the face.

      You have made some vague insinuations about an agenda. What do you think my agenda is?

  4. To Voz:
    You obviously no nothing abou me or my business and are simply having a whine and a moan. I specifically didn’t hand wring or toot my horn in that post about all great stuff we do (or I have done personally) because I knew it would be ammunition to detractors like yourself. The moral equivalent of a sea cucumber, wouldn’t even bother to come onto this site and defend his company … or even waste time with this sort of discourse.

    By the way, LaughRiot … did you go around all the sites operated by transgirls and see how many (or few) of them promoted the TDOR or would that not be a cool think for you to do? Maybe it would bring less publicity and make for a worse read then singling out the ONE company which does operate transparently and have forums allowing for these sorts of discussions.

    I also fail to see how I can be a loser, when I’ve a very successful business, great integrity and a very happy personal life? Obviously jealousy or animosity from something that happened “back in your day” clouds all other judgement but as your attacks are anonymous and ill-informed, then it’s hard to see just why?

    • Steven – I mentioned a variety of sites that did nothing for TDoR. Don’t worry, I’ll be making a post about the “walk of shame” boys on LB69.

    • sir, I know all about your business, and, quite frankly, I find your defense factually bankrupt, and morally reprehensible.

      This is our lives you are fucking with, and then candy assing about the 10001 reasons why you shouldn’t have to listen to the women you make money off of.

      so, sit your ass down, and do some learnin, because school is in session, and you need to take some notes here.

      That is all.

  5. … I’m not going to get into your other post point for point, I’ve stated my position and I think your answers and directions are fairly balanced. I do think you put a lot of bias against companies like ours based on whatever personal experiences and yes, agenda’s you have against us. We are a business and we would never endanger anybody, we try to educate and show the meaning of respect within the confines of running an erotica company but we’re not a soapbox and to do that, would be harmful to the business … in turn, lessening the small impact and the good that we may be able to do.

    You didn’t really answer my question? How about an expose on the tgirl operated sites who failed to do anything or mention anything? Surely that’s more interesting and important that going after a porn site in Asia like LB69?

    • Respect for trans women will mean more trans women for your business clients to enjoy. That is why your business is as small as you claim it is.

      This is why I, as a businesswoman, call you a loser as a businessman. You are small potatoes, and only think about the next quarter. Real business acumen would tell you to go the distance in nurturing and growing what you make money off of, but, you never made that intuitive leap.

      Instead, you choose only to focus on the immediacy of what’s available, instead of the greatness of what’s possible. Because of that, you’ll never even see the red ink, and your business will stay as marginal and as forgettable as the thinking which you have displayed here today.

      have fun being small, cuz you choose to think small. Better you than me.

    • Steven-

      Still not sure what you perceive as my bias and agenda. How would being a “soapbox” be harmful to your business, I’m curious mostly in what you would consider as a soapbox. Also, specifically, what good do you see you doing beyond paychecks to your models? I’m not saying you don’t – but what do you see as a positive? What education do you see you or your company providing?

      Because I’m fair, I’ll answer your question. I don’t think it would be any more interesting in doing an expose on the t-girl run sites. But since you mention it, yeah I think Nikki from Latina Tranny failed. Given that her country (Brazil) is the most deadly country for a trans woman to live. The rest of them also failed. They had a chance to do something and squander it. It should also be noted that for women, particularly trans women, pointing out violence against us results in potentially more violence. The reaction is often to call us “hysterical, over-reacting, emotional, liars, and attention-whores”. Women are always punished more for pointing this out.

      Why should I not pay attention to the cowards at LB69? At least those guys admit to be ashamed of their “relationships” with Trans women. Heck they even have a cute name for the walk from the bar to the hotel. Any reason why those poor fellows are above reproach?

  6. Gosh, Voz, what a failure I must be. My company has been doing this 12 years, project well further than the next quarter and actually do nurture the transgenders that we work with, which is why many work only with us and keep coming back to us. I don’t need to provide references to you, my sites and my integrity speaks for itself.

    I’m not “fucking with your life”, I’ve interest in being part of it at all and I’m very sorry that your short-comings and failure in your life, need to be projected with such aggression to me and my company. Just how am I “morally reprehensible”.

    Your rants are an absolute joke, your a walking cliche, get something original to say or substantiate your ravings.

    • Steven –

      I get wanting to protect your brand and “good name”.

      Voz is not a child, and I don’t appreciate you or anyone talking down to her.

      Being dismissive when she is telling you that members of the community that YOU CLAIM TO BE A PART of and CLAIM to support have issues with the way you are showing your support. I am not just complaining, but also providing you with ways I think you can do better.

      • Well that will be my cue to get my hat and get out of Dodge. Your quite happy to let this individual attack me and my character but as I’m not one of the girls, as soon as I’m “dismissive” of her, I’m chastised for it. Hypocrisy.

        You cherry pick my responses and instead of even answering my questions, just decide to pull them apart. I’ve read the post about the attack on you, which is horrendous to happen to everybody but for you to put that on “men who visit adult sites” if small minded and shows why you do have a soap box and an agenda. I’m not going to get into your specific case but the fact hat you said, that it’s happened more than once may say more about you and the men you choose to date, then the simple fact this one individual had visited a tranny site (I don’t know a man under 60 who hasn’t visited one porn site, and I don’t see them resorting to violence against women). I don’t appreciate you using my name in the text of that post either, as it suggests I condone the fact that this happens which is blatantly untrue.
        I will however, do a bit of a survey among the many tgirls that I do know, and get a feeling for how many of them have suffered violence at the hands of men they’ve dated (specifically in the traditional sense of dating and not the new name for prositution/escorting) and the facts from a wider range of individuals.
        It’s a shame that the few embittered and close-minded individuals who read and respond here aren’t as polite, educated or able to enter discourse as you are.

        As I’ve already mentioned to you, instead of attacking the easy targets of porn sites and/or bringing up my name in every complaint, which is far too easy as I’m one of the only site owner who does do interviews and is prepared to enter discussions, perhaps you should look at what the girls aren’t doing to promote transgender awareness and safety, or perhaps they are.

        Anyway, good luck, try not to alienate too many people with the sister act as your doing a disservice to the people your trying to get your points across to and just creating an atmosphere of mis-guided hate.

  7. As promised – My beat-down by a member of an Internet trans porn site.

  8. Steven-

    OK, I will say that some of the comments have been personal. I’m going to ask that we keep the discussion away from commentary on a person’s character – and that goes in all directions.

    I think I have answered all of your questions here. In my other articles, I offered up commentary that either showed why your comments were problematic and/or gave alternatives to what you said. If you have questions that I have not answered, please let me know. On the other hand, you haven’t really answered many of my questions.

    You are the one who stated that men who join trans porn sites are not the demographic of men who attack trans women. I gave a personal account showing this is not the case. I don’t see how anything in the other post implies that you condone the action.

    As far as me and the men I date…

    Given that I was in a relationship at the time, I tried to vet my potential partners quite well – still do actually. The thing is, we are often sleeping with men who *think* this is a cool fantasy, or figure they may actually want some sort of relationship. Then after the fact the ever so common “am I gay” question takes on a visceral potentially violent reality. Men who are 100% hetero, but “dig a shemale” just touched some penis and liked it (or didn’t). You can’t really judge who will freak out or not. Since most guys don’t think they would beat the snot out of someone they just sexed up, you can’t really go by how they act or what they say.

    The fact that the authorities are quick to dismiss our attacks on the basis of “I didn’t know that was a dude”, it makes it that much easier for they guy to make that jump. No realistic expectation of repercussion makes people do nasty stuff.

    I think your survey could shed some light here. I don’t know that I would tell any of my RL male friends about this, but it could be enlightening depending on your friends. I did my own anecdotal and probably skewed survey after last year’s TDoR. Out of 10-15 trans women who all went for a coffee and a walk after the memorial, all by two of us had been either physically or sexually attacked by an intimate partner. Remember, the stats for cis- women is 1 in 4 for rape. This doesn’t include physical abuse. I suspect that the rates will be higher for trans women for a variety of reasons.

    You keep directing my attention to the girls in the industry, why is that? I contend that the big site owners are making more off of the niche than individual operators. I also wonder what kind of future in the industry a particularly outspoken model would have. Given that few of the models work exclusively for their own sites, what impact would discussing violence against trans women have on them getting shoots with larger sites?

    I also like to criticize with a solution or an alternative. I don’t just rant or pop off usually. So, let’s say that the gals aren’t doing anything other than promoting their sites/DVDs/escorting/public appearances. Objectively, and in fairness, yeah they are missing the chance to do some good by educating their fans. Solution?…

    Why no do a series of PSAs like the mainstream gay industry did in the early 90’s about HIV, but about anti-trans violence? Why not include some educational moments in the plots of the movies? Would it be beyond the pale to have Kimber James (or anyone really) respond to being called “shemale” with something that clarifies how problematic the term is? Better may be having the guy in a scene correct another guy. Show scenes where the cis- people are actively NOT ashamed of being with a trans woman. Have a model decline sex with someone who wants them to be a dirty secret in lieu of hot sex with someone who doesn’t.

    I will give you that you are the only one in the industry who is easy to find. It contributes to my mistrust of the industry in general. When the guys making the images other guys take as reality are faceless mysterious figures it doesn’t inspire trust or confidence and only reinforces the perception that being attracted to trans women is a shameful thing.

    Finally Steven, no hate here. There is valid concern because no other population is so tied to your industry. The things that happen in your industry – not just your sites – can (as Voz said) “Fuck us over”. Whatever level of education you do on your sites, the guys are coming away with the idea that (unlike any other genre) what they see in porn is what is real for trans women. Porn is not the best place to discuss the actual hotness of trans women – our strength, determination, and the fact we survive. It can – should – do better though.

  9. Mr. Gallon,

    Would it have been so bad or so hard to have posted an announcement on your sites about the TDoR? You need only have posted it for a week or so. It would have at least raised awareness among your site visitors about the TDoR. If you didn’t want to write up your own announcement I’m sure the site owner of tlb would have gladly let you use the announcement on his site. If you would like the author of that announcement to write one for your sites for next November then contact the site owner of tlb or laughriotgirl to get the email address.

    I would also like to say that you had a golden opportunity to do some good at your offices with your own staff to hold a short TDoR service at Grooby this past Friday. Please don’t let this opportunity pass by next year.

    Laughriotgirl,

    I wish you all the best in raising awareness of the TDoR. You are doing a splendid job. Your information and opinions are invaluable.

  10. “Does The Transgender Porn World Celebrate The TDOR?”

    Er, why on earth should it?
    I mean…

    Steve is cool
    so are his sites.
    I did my first professional shoot on Shemaleyum.
    Everything, from contact to follow-ups to pre signing model releases & consequences in the far future were all covered by their UK photographer Greg who was caring & wonderful to work with.
    Steve has the remembrance site for dead models & escorts
    which is very caring, as they don’t raise tranny porn revenue.
    [thats the sole purpose for the sites, after all.]
    Now Grooby site & every other tranny porn site in the world has no responsibility to educate the masses. Though Grooby does go that extra distance in supporting us transsexual adult performers.
    The ts models do this self sex objectification, by our own free choice.
    Transsexuals get assaulted & murdered coz of their status.
    I don’t see any connection with that & trans porn.
    Any more than Hustler or Playboy makes men murderers.

    There is no reason for those sorts of sites to post the remembrance day detail, it’s not what they are about.

    I also Whore.
    Another ts escort was recently murdered by a client.
    A friend, Francis {Fransexual} was contacted by the police 2 days after the murder.
    The suspect had rung her on the day of the slaying…
    I’m aware of risks
    but I take responsibility for my own safety
    & not criticise Grooby or the like for this or the state of the roads causing accidents
    or high cholesterol in the food.
    They have no control or influence on any of these things.

    Finally, If I do get murdered,
    DO NOT
    UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES
    REFER TO ME ON TDoR
    as I would rather be remembered as a woman
    than as a transsexual
    or as a deluded man in a dress.
    😉

    • Hey Misha.

      I’m sure Steven is a nice guy. I think he can handle criticism better, but that’s just me. I also have no doubt that he his good to work with – easily better than the other options. I want to address a couple of your points:

      “The ts models do this self sex objectification, by our own free choice.
      Transsexuals get assaulted & murdered coz of their status.
      I don’t see any connection with that & trans porn.
      Any more than Hustler or Playboy makes men murderers.”

      Let’s not make this a pro/anti- porn debate. I’m pretty porn-neutral. Comparing trans porn and Hustler/Playboy is difficult due to social factors.

      First, there is the obvious. Guys looking at Playboy or mainstream hardcore porn know the women and the scenes in porn are fantasy. It is expected that if a man walks into a parent-teacher conference, he will not have a three-way with the teacher and janitor. Guys don’t have that balance with trans porn.

      Second, men are not introduced to cis women in hyper-sexual contexts. Since most of them are first exposed to trans women via porn they tend cling to those fantasies as reality. The industry affects real-life trans women FAR more than mainstream porn affects cis women.

      Third, many of the scenes in trans porn DIRECTLY reflect the ways we are killed. I went over this with Steven, and he assures me that Grooby doesn’t do it. However, LOTS of trans fantasy is predicated on the girl being a “trick”. Guys who kill us use that line of thought as defense – and it works.

      “There is no reason for those sorts of sites to post the remembrance day detail, it’s not what they are about.”

      Why not? Honestly, why not?

      I’m honestly sorry about your friend. I have lost more than a few friends under those circumstances. It’s part of the reason I get so heated when the sex industry ignores TDoR. Most of the women on the list are in that industry.

      I say that Grooby DOES have influence over those things. Let’s take “Shemale” as an example. Steven admits that it was a bad choice of words to use in his sites. He can’t get away from it now because the word is too popular. He started with it, his sites are the most popular, he’s leading the industry. While he didn’t stick us with the word (Thanks Jan Raymond) his use of it sure didn’t help.

      As the method by which guys become aware of us, I think there is a level of accountability that the industry has to the greater community. If only to be ABSOLUTELY CLEAR that the stuff depicted is fantasy because lots of guys are not making that leap

  11. […] last year that got some attention, and is still one of the top hits on the site.  Last year, I wondered if the porn industry observed the Trans Day of  […]

  12. At first, I felt proud to participate in the TDOR service and vigil held in Boston. Then I realized that I shouldn’t feel proud, because I understood it to be an obligation not only to attend but also to endorse and become active by helping the transgender community here in the new political action coalition that has been started as well as simply by making my own individual efforts to stamp out hatred whenever I see it.

    TDOR is one day out of the year. Its message, though, is only for that day. And it seems to me that those who are in a position to reach the ranks from which the haters come — and we know that the male customers of transsexual porn are a large part of those ranks — should do everything possible, every day of the year, not only to “support” trans models but to educate their customers who may be the haters.

  13. Laughriot, I think your performance ideas are great, both sex and trans positive. Maybe they won’t take over the world in time for x mas, but why not indeed put something different out there?

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